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Without counting cards, blackjack is -EV. I think roulette is beatable. I recently played at a casino that offered blackjack for about 5 mins every hour. Page 1 of 3. And if you take too much money you will be threatened. Originally Posted by DrawingDonkey. Is blackjack beatable? But of course other factors could come into play which could cause a particular game of blackjack to be profitable to a player. I know some people who occasionally do this. This is a lot like asking if you could really make a living as a stock analyst. Inside cheating, OTOH, will almost certainly not include your second example. I wasn't going to buy the book anyway, just pointing it out. Originally Posted by bpb. View Public Profile. BB code is On. Smilies are On. There are player banked blackjack games that can also be played with an edge without needing to count cards. Dealer is making enough mistakes to overcome the house advantage. You're cheating past posting, etc. Variance is high, and you need a lot of time and discipline to count cards and win. So 21 isn't an accurate representation of card counting? You're collecting comps whose value overcomes the house advantage. I would say don't waste your time. Send a private message to noledges.{/INSERTKEYS}{/PARAGRAPH} To beat the game really requires team play such as done by the MIT students or learn the memory technques and exact odds calculations. Not consistently. Not Legitimate Agreed, this is not legitimate. You keep track of a single number in your head and a number for each card that appears based on its value. I searched this on google but wasn't able to find a real clear cut answer. All times are GMT The time now is PM. Not beating the game I agree that it is very unlikely a casino is going to comp a table game player enough to make up for the negative EV, but it might be possible. It has been tested in the courts and as long as you are not getting the info from someone that isn't playing and as long as you aren't working with the dealer, it is legal. You're playing a game with a player edge given perfect basic strategy. Last edited by DrawingDonkey; at PM. You just need to find a biased wheel! Find More Posts by Duke Find Threads Started by Duke Re: Is blackjack beatable? Computer Technical Help Programming. In addition to being a fantastic read, it goes over strategies to win without counting. Trust me, I beat that game. The problem is that even where this is legal - you will get banned from the casino. Originally Posted by knightrunnermat. Not beating the game Why not? Originally Posted by tetron. If you make it a point to scout good deals and maximize them, you are beating the game. Thread Tools. Over the 'long term' you will lose money playing blackjack. Not legitimate way to beat the game. Remember Me? Originally Posted by SheetWise. Originally Posted by Duke But do these strategies give me an edge over the house or is it just reducing the house's advantage, which would still make me a longterm loser? If you like blackjack you are best perhaps playing something like elimination BJ where people don't understand the odds and strategies. Also, I see nothing unfair about using the information I'm given, whether or not the casino intended to give me that information. It is also quite effective. {PARAGRAPH}{INSERTKEYS}User Name Remember Me? Other Gambling Games Discussion about other gambling games. Not legitimately beating the game This is more of a gray area, but in my opinion, it is the casino's responsibility to train the staff. Not Legitimate. I saw this book on it of a guy who claims to play pro? Not beating the game You're collecting comps whose value overcomes the house advantage. I would imagine it is on wikipedia. People can and will cheat, both inside and outside -- but not casinos, IMHO. The problem is the casino can cheat too, for example, dealing seconds, rigged shoes. Is he just trying to sell it? Buy my book instead. But I would be surprised if a casino reacted well to you asking to verify the deck was a complete 8 shoe. Not legitimate way to beat the game This is perfectly legitimate. Blackjack is beatable - but if your asking the questions you probably shouldn't try. Not legitimate way to beat the game Dealer is making enough mistakes to overcome the house advantage. I'll say it again; you can win long term by employing counting techniques; other than that there's no legitimate way to beat the game. I recommend reading Ben Mezrich's Busting Vegas. I think that ace sequencing can fall under this definition as well, but overall I think we just view the question differently. If you have an edge, you are winning. Forum Rules. You have to be subtle. But it is very easy to detect. I mean without counting cards. User Name. Not beating the game You're playing a game with a player edge given perfect basic strategy. For example Dealer is flashing the hole card. You can take small amounts from casino's but it is like a hustle. I guess my main point here is that the game itself is not beatable without counting cards by definition. Not legitimately beating the game You're playing when some promo is going on which overcomes the house advantage. You can win long term by employing counting techniques; other than that there's no legitimate way to beat the game. Originally Posted by noledges. You're playing when some promo is going on which overcomes the house advantage. Dealer is flashing the hole card. It really is not as glorified as Hollywood makes it out to be. Either way, he's obviously trying to sell his book. Even if you got to choose what you believe -- but do people? Mark Forums Read. I think the main problem is that people don't realise how trivial it is to count cards. Ok let's take a look, Post 3: Quote:. Could you make a living in any market? So don't waste my time with this? So there.